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UND Players In Trouble Again

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Three players from the North Dakota hockey team were issued citations by the Grand Forks police department early Friday morning, according to reports.

T.J. Oshie and Chris VandeVelde received "loud party" violations in relation to the incident only hours after returning home to Grand Forks from Denver, where the three participated in the Frozen Four.

For Oshie, it is his third run-in with law enforcement while a member of the North Dakota hockey program. In 2007 he was cited for being in a bar underage, and in 2008 he was charged for disorderly conduct for allegedly urinating in an elevator.

It is also not the first time UND players have been issued loud party citations. In 2006, Joe Finley was arrested for underage drinking.

The team flew home after Thursday's 6-1 loss to Boston College in the semifinal game of the Frozen Four, leaving Denver some time around 11:00 p.m. The players were issued tickets only hours after arrival, some time early Friday morning.

A loud party violation is issued when the decibel level of a home becomes a nuisance to neighbors, and fines range from $250 to $750, depending on the facts in relation to the offense. No jail time comes with the infraction.

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University of North Dakota Fans: You must be "proud" of your ice hockey players. The list of their achievements are too many, but I'll try listing a few. 1.) They give back to the community; in fines paid to local law enforcement. 2.) Role models to the local youth hockey program. How to be a "Goon" 101 3.) Representives of the University of North Dakota. Thanks for the Scholarship, now we'll embarass ourselves & UND. "Maybe the UND should have a chat with the pride of North Dakota or at least put a leash on them."
Apr 12 2008, 8:45 pm by M.C.Taylor@ Miami U.,Oxford,OH

Well, I went to UND and was issued this same ticket. Whatever, they got home, got hammered and got rowdie I wouldn't find this behavior out of the ordinary for any red blooded college student. And a quick question for Taylor in Miami...how many kids from Oxford are going to go on to play D1 hockey? Get a life.
Apr 12 2008, 9:52 pm by Patrick, Santa Barbara, CA

Mr. Taylor, 1. The players give a lot back to the Grand Forks community, and surrounding communities. 2. Goon? Name one. There isn't a Sioux player worthy of that name. 3. Never young yourself? Never made mistakes? 4. It's ok, I understand. We got beat by Boston too, and our best players are likely leaving too.
Apr 12 2008, 9:54 pm by Gerald Strong, Eden Prairie, MN

What reason did they have to party? Shouldn't they have been sitting in silence and pouting?
Apr 12 2008, 10:02 pm by Pete, Minn.

Probably the last time they're going to be together as friends on the same team. Jeez and I thought Britney Spears got bad press from the media. Break out the halos, lament, hate on them, whatever makes you sleep at night.
Apr 12 2008, 10:11 pm by Take a break. GF

Way to go Oshie, Chorney, and Vande Velde, I am proud to be a fan. At least we aren't like michigan and playing chess after lossing. Or like ohio and getting team haircuts after lossing. party on.
Apr 12 2008, 11:07 pm by Salt Lake City, UT

I wish I had gone to college in Grand Forks, it sounds like a real party college.
Apr 12 2008, 11:19 pm by JonB Seattle

Ohhhhh Gerald............Goon? Joe Finley. This is really too bad for the team as I'm sure their not all like these 3. Every team has them.
Apr 12 2008, 11:50 pm by Joe, Mpls., MN

They are college students blowing off some steam. Big deal......what college student hasn't done this??? If this happened in Denver or an other larger city....you'd never even hear about this kind of petty crap, only because GF is a small town do you even hear about it. Plllllllllease this kind of stuff isn't even real news... it isn't like the CC player with the sex scandel earlier this season.....what didn't see any press on that situatin? I rest my case.
Apr 13 2008, 2:08 am by J, Denver

Joe, Sorry, but Mr. Finley is as far from "Goon" as you can get on UND's team. In three years he has NEVER dropped the gloves once. Sure, he's big and intimidating and it can't be much fun to get into the corner with him, but he's no goon.
Apr 13 2008, 7:37 am by Gerald Strong, Eden Prairie, MN

Yep, they're not dirty. Just Finley (handshake vs. UMTC), Radke (Testwuide/Vossberg), Kaip (Bruess) and close to the entire team against UM and Wisconsin. I don't care about the noise complaint, but don't say they aren't dirty when they were involved in fights with more than half the league this year. I know, I know they're standing up for teammates. Also, it starts and ends with the bird-flying coach. What class.
Apr 13 2008, 9:17 am by CW, SSP

By the way, Jones cut his hair for a girl with cancer. Nice work on that Salt Lake.
Apr 13 2008, 9:20 am by Jeff, Rochester

TJ Oshie isn't doing himself any favors getting into more trouble with the law. Does anyone think that the St. Louis Blues management doesn't think this is a problem? My belief is that TJ Oshie is putting himself in an unfavorable position with respect to his negotiations with the Blues and degrading his market value. Why would the Blues want to take a multi million dollar risk on a guy that can't stay out of trouble? Give him a pile of money and you only magnify the potential for trouble. TJ better grow up fast before it is too late. He's already under a microscope as far as the Blues are concerned. Nothing is guaranteed.
Apr 13 2008, 11:03 am by JD

UND is a total embarrassment. Offensive parties that make fun of Native Americans, and the fact that they are always in trouble with the law. Clean up or close up.
Apr 13 2008, 11:49 am by Gopher, Minneapolis.

To paraphrase Don Cherry "There's a reason they call him the Russian Rocket instead of the Russian Rocket Scientist.." Did Oshie spend any time going to class? Sounds like he is seriously lacking any smarts in the staying out of trouble department.
Apr 13 2008, 11:59 am by 9>7

JD, what exactly has TJ done that would warrant concern from the Blues organization? Would being caught underage at a bar concern them? I doubt it. Would being written up for urinating in an elevator after being stuck in it for a 105 minutes cause them concern? Doubtful. How about being written up for a party that supposedly was too loud for their neighbors? Once again, I doubt it. The Blues will offer TJ the max $$ allowed for a rookie, no doubt about it. I've never heard anyone call into the local radio shows saying what a jerk TJ is. All I ever hear about him is what a good person he is, and all the good he does for the GFs community.
Apr 13 2008, 12:02 pm by Jeff, Fargo

Jeff, when anybody gets into trouble with the law it is cause for concern. You sound like Sid Hartman citing all of TJ's supposed good deeds done in the community in order to downplay getting in trouble with the police, again. You may seek to minimize TJ's lack of sound judgement but he doesn't do himself any favors by getting into trouble with the police, again. But maybe you thought Matt Green driving drunk was no big deal either.
Apr 13 2008, 12:46 pm by Eddie

Don't lose sight of the fact that Grand Forks is a tiny town and the spotlight shines much brighter on the Sioux hockey players than in bigger cities and in other college towns with big time programs in other sports such as Boston, Ann Arbor and South Bend. While this can be positive, in this case it worked against very normal student-athletes.
Apr 13 2008, 1:04 pm by Bill, Atlantic Highlands, NJ

Win or lose we still booze.
Apr 13 2008, 2:18 pm by Craig Letner, Grand Forks, ND

Boys will be boys--leave them alone. Maybe they didn't have class until late on Friday.
Apr 13 2008, 4:40 pm by Tom, Pittsburgh

GFPD hands out loud party violations like candy on Halloween. Seriously, they have nothing else to do except get people for DUI's and loud parties. Who's to say that they were the only people there? This may be the wrong place at the wrong time situation. The Blues are not concerned about TJ and they've said that publicly (after the elevator incident).
Apr 13 2008, 4:49 pm by Mike, Grand Forks

M.C. Taylor your not the same clown that writes for the Miami Student Newspaper are you? You know the same clown that was calling Miami a dynasty?
Apr 13 2008, 5:05 pm by fan from ND

CW the bruess and kaip fight was a mutal think why isn't anyone calling him out since last year he was pounding on Kaip while he stood there eating right and lefts and didn't fight back. You sound just as clueless as Taylor from Skippyville.
Apr 13 2008, 5:08 pm by

"UND is a total embarrassment. Offensive parties that make fun of Native Americans, and the fact that they are always in trouble with the law. Clean up or close up." Hey Gopher, good words of advice considering what a couple ex-gopher football player(s) are on trial for right now. Loud noise sounds like mere child's play compared to some of the antics in Dinkytown.
Apr 13 2008, 6:37 pm by Jimmy Dallas

Yeah, peeing in an elevator is what a normal college kid does. Get real Sue fans. You guys have the worst reputation in college hockey. I don't see a problem with drinking in college, they're of age. But picking bar fights and peeing in elevators? There's nothing right about that. I think that this behavior has a little to do with the head coach over there. He doesn't seem like the type to work real hard in keeping them out of trouble.
Apr 13 2008, 8:54 pm by word

The elevator was stuck what else where they supposed to do
Apr 13 2008, 10:33 pm by Some people need to have a beer, Grand forks, ND

Let's put your lives under microscopes, while we use load speakers to announce your every slip up. A Sioux player has yet to be convicted or charged with a violent crime. As for being role models I hope you goofers realize how many quitters and dopers you have (While we are overgeneralizing). All of you better hope we don't find any rocks to throw at your glass houses. Loud party, loud party?! No Credit Card theft, or rape, not even a DUI? Why are we talking?
Apr 13 2008, 11:00 pm by Bob Agnes @ Fargo, ND

Hey Bob Agnes, Why are you ripping on the Gopher fans? It looks like negative comments are coming from people all around the country who support different colleges. Better worry about the stick in UND's eye instead of the sliver in Minnesota's eye.
Apr 13 2008, 11:11 pm by JonB Seattle

I'm not on the staff of the Miami Student paper. I'm a registered nurse @ University Hospital in Cincinnnati & my husband is a chemistry professor at Miami U. My seven brothers played youth hockey & two of them still coach youth hockey. I've followed college ice hockey since 1976. Why did I choose to speak up about UND. Because, these student-athletes are given a gift of between $11,300-$19,700 plus extras to play the sport they love and attend college FREE. It is only my opinion and everyone, including myself is entitled to have one but, these men should be held to a slightly higher standard. I hope they grow up and in the process do not harm themselves or others in the process.
Apr 13 2008, 11:37 pm by M.C.Taylor@ Miami U.,Oxford,OH

Word you sound like an F'N moron, UND hockey players aren't picking fights in bars. The sirority that held the Cowboys and Indians has nothing to do with UND hockey or the name. That is more of a Morons being morons. You might be thinking of the C.C. hockey team and their black face minstrel.
Apr 13 2008, 11:57 pm by

I love hockey and the lifestyle ahhhhhh what a wonderful world!!!!!
Apr 14 2008, 12:55 am by Lake, Fargo ND

Oshie is a chump. He will get his lights punched out when the cage comes off in the show. Can't wait to see it.
Apr 14 2008, 12:58 am by PutHansonIN, Fargo

UND is BC's ***** at the Frozen Four
Apr 14 2008, 1:03 am by PutHansonIN, Fargo

UND is BC's B I T C H I'd be drinking too if I played for them after getting an A S S whoopin' like that on national TV. Didn't have the character to stand up for each other in that game Thursday though, eh? Not even enough guts to rough B.C. up in the third. SOFT. SOFT. SOFT. Took their whoopin' like little school boys and cried all the way home and then got jammed up bt The Man. Then the remaining Sioux fans cheered for Notre Dame on Saturday. You should have cheered for BC because whomever you support ... loses.
Apr 14 2008, 1:09 am by PutHansonIN, Fargo

4th post above this....think a little. Oshie and that UNH kid. Right a bell? That's what i thought. Cowboys and indians? Who was asking about that anyways? go outside and play in the wind.
Apr 14 2008, 1:33 am by

Oops...5th post above this now....think a little. Oshie and that UNH kid. Ring a bell? That's what i thought. Cowboys and indians? Who was asking about that anyways? go outside and play in the wind
Apr 14 2008, 1:36 am by

I love these posts ripping UND. The UND fans are getting a taste of their own medicine for their vicious posts about the Gophers, Badgers and other college teams. It is great they got their asses kicked. That being said, I would still love to party with Oshie and some others, they seem like real party animals. Time for another beer!!!
Apr 14 2008, 6:58 am by jbuss, seattle

over and over this, 'under a microscope," BS! they're treated like god's up there. think of what they must get away with.
Apr 14 2008, 11:09 am by glen sharpley, san diego

To set the record straight, the credit card theft was a University of Michigan issue.
Apr 14 2008, 4:31 pm by Charge-it

For everyone tearing into the UND kids, I say were you ever 21? Doesn't sound like it, also why would you go back to Grand Forks and sit there and pout? Im not saying throwing a bash is the way to go about it but I am saying its not a big deal I think its irresponsible for the police to issue them tickets, that community up there lives and dies by the hockey team...Cut the boys a break.
Apr 14 2008, 5:03 pm by Minnesota, WCHA Fan

So many people in this comment section are advocating for a double standard for the UND hockey players. What a bunch of crap. Does it occur to any of you that these guys were being disruptive toward their neighbors? Given that Oshie, VandeVelde and Chorney were cited at 6:00Am it makes sense that the discruptive behavior was taking place for some time prior to the police making their appearance. Why should the neighbors of the Lay Down Sioux have to put up with being woke up in the middle of the night? And I'm supposed to feel sorry for Oshie, Chorney and VandeVelde because they are making their neighbors miserable? Maybe these guys need a remedial course in respect for their neighbors. Just because the Lay Down Sioux choked in Denver is no justification to disrupt their neighbors sleep time. What happened to a bit of common courtesy toward someone you live next to? Really, how hard can it be to have a little party and not attract the cops? What a bunch of DUNCES.
Apr 14 2008, 5:15 pm by Bomber, Your Town

PutHansonIN, "...didn't have the character to stand up for each other in that game Thursday though, eh? Not even enough guts to rough B.C. up in the third. SOFT. SOFT. SOFT. Took their whoopin' like little school boys and cried all the way home and then got jammed up bt The Man." This is a lose-lose situation for the Sioux. You are bashing them for not standing up for themselves and roughing up BC in the third period. If they had done that you and all the other fans would be calling them classless "goons" and sore losers for starting a fight. I bet the Boston College players partied after they got home early Sunday morning, and deservedly so. Win or lose, all four teams had a great season and they deserve to let loose.
Apr 14 2008, 5:46 pm by ProudSiouxFan, North Dakota

Keep the posts coming, this is awesome! Time for another beer, TJ! My personal belief is simple, I am happy the Sioux fans were disapointed once again this year. However, 20 year old college athletes having a party- no big deal in my mind.
Apr 14 2008, 6:03 pm by jbuss, seattle

The fact is that this story is hardly "newsworthy." If you take into account all of the "infractions" (felonies) that occur in the big time DI football/basketball programs, a story on a loud party violation is a joke. Everyone is free to have their own opinion about the "loud party," but I don't get why everyone is making a big deal out of this???
Apr 14 2008, 6:11 pm by Jeff, Fargo

JBUSS - So who is your team or are you too embarrassed to admit that you're a gophers fan? You know if it was me, I would think twice about ripping any team that didn't have the talent to make it to the frozen four. One common theme I see on all of these posts is that people have to rip on "indian-themed parties" and "loud party citations" as a way to rip on the Sioux hockey team. God knows they can't rip on the Sioux for kicking the sh!t out of their favorite team during the regular season!
Apr 14 2008, 6:59 pm by D-Man, Denver

2. Goon? Name one. Maybe he's talking about Bina slashing Bucky Badger's legs. I agree that this isn't that big of a deal but it doesn't look good for the program, especially after a big loss like that. Hakstol's bird, http://bp0.blogger.com/_d6VCZrEFwVg/R6Uj91NigCI/AAAAAAAAAHk/rfCiteTZtmI/s1600-h/hakstol_bird.jpg. It just looks bad. Gotta love the BC fans chanting "Get a haircut" at Jones for Miami when he donated his hair for locks of love.
Apr 14 2008, 7:34 pm by Devin Judy\'s in Grand Forks with potential Sioux recruits

Finley was the guy that slashed the Bucky Badger Mascot.
Apr 14 2008, 8:41 pm by ND

Hey DMan, I think my posts have made it very clear that I am a Gopher fan-always have been, always will be. No embarassment here. Hey TJ, time to get me another beer!
Apr 14 2008, 8:48 pm by JonB Seattle

hey puthanson in, you sound kinda bitter about oshie what did he do steal your girlfriend? CHUMP? i bet you dont have the balls to say that to his face
Apr 15 2008, 9:36 am by SARGE, MN

M.C. Taylor. I ask you this have you ever played in a game that really mattered and could be one of your last for that team, and end up loosing well it sucks so you blow off steam. Another thing I know of very few school teams that do as much as they do for the commuity. I know for a fact that alot of schools only do something for the community to get something in return. And for them being goons its called standing up for each other on the team not giving a cheap shot and running away like a little girl but then again you watch ohio hockey maybe you are use to running away from someone...
Apr 15 2008, 8:48 pm by

The loud pary ordinance that was issued here is an absolute disgrace in law enforcement. This law was enacted so that the police could target students and keep students from having any party of any kind. The police lie about being able to hear the party from outside and have issued these citations to houses with only one person in the house at times. This is a terrible law that will be challenged someday when someone is willing to pay to challenge it. I notice they didn't actually say there was a party going on at all. This law is applied with prejudice to UND students and especially athletes homes on campus. There is an absolute double standard when it comes to this law...It's stupid and nobody should really be paying any attention to it. And to any people out there who want to bash UND hockey players or players of any other team for various discretions...get over it, they're hockey players...not saints.
Apr 16 2008, 6:18 pm by Brian, GF

The people around the country has no idea how much charity work and time Oshie spends with the kids of ND / MN. His apartment is "marked" by the GFPD. They have nothing better to do. Plus, a spouse of a GFPD officer works for WDAZ-TV. That's why it is always in the media. Oshie has been the recepient of harrassment for the past 2 years. That's what happens when you are an Indian.
Apr 17 2008, 12:31 pm by Sitting Bull

Come on...Do you really think Grand Forks is the only school out there that has cops watching their students houses for parties? It's the same all over. Mankato, St.Cloud, Duluth, everywhere. It just seems that this bunch of Sue players can't take a hint I guess.
Apr 17 2008, 1:20 pm by JM, Minny

wow that tj oshie knows how to party up a storm lol
Apr 17 2008, 2:17 pm by unknown.unknown

In the words of Barney Fife "Where there's smoke there's firewater."
Apr 17 2008, 2:57 pm by Opie , Mayberry

M.C. Taylor should worry about hockey in her own back, I would imagine the Miami students and player drink and party just as much as the UND or other schools just that it doesn't get as much press. I mean seriously do you believe that they are at home doing cross word puzzels? please pull your head out of the sand.
Apr 17 2008, 9:03 pm by ND

WHO CARES
Apr 18 2008, 8:25 am by WHO CARES

It doesn't matter if the fine was $5000. Both of them probably don't care about money. Especially when Oshie turned down 800,000 to play one more year of college hockey. I'm pretty sure that they aren't the only ones at UND that have been in trouble, there just the famous ones. Big deal. Put yourself in there shoes. You wouldn't be out enjoying college would you, you would be sitting in your dorm room studying. You people need to get a life
Apr 18 2008, 8:30 am by Sioux

Might I suggest putting them on double secret probation.
Apr 21 2008, 12:35 pm by

Boys will be boys.
Apr 23 2008, 1:50 pm by Megan, Boston MA

Exactly! Who cares about college age adults drinking alcohol and partying. I did that at that age, except I was in the military serving my country in a foreign land. I would wonder about someone that age that doesn't look to party somewhere. What I care about is the thin skin fans of the Sioux fans. They can dish things out, but they cannot take it. I read thier posts all over internet hockey sites, and they are very willing to dish out sh*t about other colleges, but they get offended quite easily when there is retaliation from other fans from rival colleges. UND fans are pussies that can't take criticism. DMan from Denver is their poster child. He is on the cover of UND ***** Fan Monthly. GO GOPHERS. Hey Oshie, get me another beer.
Apr 26 2008, 3:54 am by jbuss seattle

JD is kinda like Nostradomus....only the opposite. Nice prediction, obviously a piddly loud party ticket meant exactly what it should- nothing.
May 18 2008, 9:28 pm by EK Green Bay

charges dropped.....don't you feel silly
Jun 26 2008, 5:07 pm by jeff, minny

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